Interpreting Slave Life

Slavery: Let's talk about it

Reflections from City Point

Posted By on May 3, 2012

I am a timid person by nature–I like to play the background and do careful, thought provoking and amazing work while back there. However I realize with a business model, this doesn’t serve well, so I work these jitters and moments of slight fear and shyness out before I come face to face with a client. But with that description, I find myself living the exact opposite which takes people by surprise. “But you seem so at ease!” is what I usually hear, which is a good thing. So imagine my thoughts when I received an email from Emmanuel Dabney of the National Parks Service wondering if I would be interested in participating in a living history program at City Point Unit, which is part of the Petersburg National Battlefield. My first reaction was “huh? Living history again?” And I thought these reactions were valid because when someone asks you about portraying someone, you think–”do I have a body of work they have seen to have them reach this decision?” All I had were stills, but was that enough? Apparently, it was!

Emmanuel had read the posts and liked what I had to say. He also liked that he found “another one”.  I got excited because I had been found and in turn found by “another one” (“Another one would refer to another African American interpreter) Arrangements were made and I found myself planning a trip to Virginia. I’m excited at this point but, I’m still admittedly a little nervous. My mindset had shifted from being on site to being behind the scenes in development, programing and research. As a consultant, that’s what I do. So to be asked to do 1st person interpretation, I was nervous. Was there dialect? As an Eppes slave whose family was on the plantation, how did I really feel about the war and a chance at freedom? Would Caroline Corsen (the woman I was portraying) be like most of the enslaved population and be happy for freedom but fearful of what to do next? I realize that Emancipation just meant you no longer belonged to someone else, but it did not give you a place to live, food to eat or a secure means of survival. These thoughts of “what’s next?” would be some of the most important thoughts those still enslaved would have. In all my interpretive time, I’ve always been told not to smile, to be sullen, look down, avoid eye contact, look submissive and have body language that supports these things. I have not managed to do all that. In 1st person I have an underlying attitude of defiance and sometimes it shows itself. That defiance came out in Caroline Corsen. However, I’m getting ahead of myself.

In preparation for Petersburg, I had to figure out clothing. I have the basics, a shift, petticoats, aprons and head wraps, but that’s it. Thankfully, with Emmanuel’s help, I was able to get clothing provided by the Booker T. Washington National Monument and their wonderful Superintendent, Carla Whitfield. She was able to outfit me in a wonderful dress and a wrap shawl that would keep me warm from the very chilly breeze coming off of the James River. Well that was great, and then the thoughts of, ‘who will I be working with?” began. I have a very, shall I say, open approach, to how slavery is portrayed. I’m a fan of 3rd person because it allows “others” to tell the story, but there are some who would rather we not allow “others” to tell the story. Would that be the case here? Would I be able to fit in with this group of seasoned interpreters?

One of the first things I heard was, “Are you the one with the website?” And indeed I was. But that’s not always a reason to get excited. Just because someone has seen it, does not make them a fan. Fortunately, I was with kindred folks. They read it, and liked the content! Yay! When I write here, it’s true that some posts are my simple musings , but most are to expose the reader to a niche, a line of work that people don’t think about. What was making this living history program special was that for once, you would have a large collective of African American interpreters presenting the story of those who were enslaved by the Eppes family. May of us were interpreters who worked at sites exposing visitors to the African American experience during slavery. Best of all for me, I would be working with Miss Kitty (Wilson-Evans) again. I found it very easy to get along with everyone because we all shared a common goal. Emmanuel had written scripts for all of us, but it wasn’t your run of the mill acting. We were telling the visitors about the Eppes slaves: who we were, how long we’d been at the plantation, what we were responsible for. These were historic facts being presented, the type of facts that for so long remained in family papers, letters, diaries and out of the public eye. It was amazing!

Saturday we had damp weather but were able to run through the program twice. Participants in our first group left and came back in time for the second tour with more family members so they could see “their” history being told. That’s the type of response I look for as a historian. This wasn’t a mere moment of entertainment, it was a moment of learning. Sunday, we had just one tour with a very large turnout. There were at least 25 people and we decided to have a little fun. All of us kept to our facts, but there were vocal inflections and delivery that we altered so that you felt it a little more. When Ms. Viola as Sally Webb said, “I think we should just stop talking about this!” in reference to slaves being whipped, she had a forcefulness in her voice that would silence anyone. We went all out and gave an amazing presentation. What I appreciated was that the visitors understood the goal–to teach–and allowed the information to sink in. They had questions regarding the Eppes’ family, their slaves and the Union troops/Grant/Lincoln who would eventually come to the site, that reflected this understanding. That made the event even more fun. Talking about slavery is mentally exhausting. It drains a person because you are recalling this horrifying history and giving it to your public. But our audience was really into the discussion and stayed afterwards to talk to us as a group and individually about our work. Gotta love it.

 

I’m often told by seasoned interpreters that you cannot show any joy in your body. Every ounce of you has to be beat down and somber. Like I said earlier, that’s not something I can do easily because I cannot be convinced that all enslaved men and women were downtrodden 24/7. Even if it’s for a split second, an event can cause one to smile or have a glimmer in their eye. Many are critical of how slavery is depicted, and you’ll very rarely see me used for anything in association with Historic Brattonsville officially because I usually had a smile when I interacted with visitors. I was doing 3rd person but still, looking happy in a photo for official use could be misconstrued as me being the “happy slave”. Being so critical and politically correct for today’s times, you can miss something important. Slaves had situational awareness. They knew they were property. Around those in positions of power over them (ie: white folks) they played that role. Amongst themselves, with loved ones or even alone, I bet a smile crossed more than one face. In those moments they were human and no one could take that moment away from them. In other words, they may be viewed as property but try as they might, slave owners could not control the thoughts of their “property”. I take that knowledge and present THAT to the public. What you may think is an acceptance of slavery is just me reflecting the situational awareness and allowing you to see a personal moment that many of the enslaved had.

As Caroline Corsen, I had a sly smile as I talked about my husband Henry getting 15 lashes. I’m not smiling because he was whipped, I’m smiling at why he got them. Henry was whipped because he stole a boat twice just to see his wife. He had a love so strong that he literally risked life and limb to see her. A dedication that strong should make anyone grin a little. People worry about how historic sites aren’t doing enough to humanize those who were slaves, yet, you put restrictions on how one should

reflect being human. I feel it’s important to be able to convey the complexity in slavery. That’s why you’ll see me smiling and getting excited when I interpret in third person. I’m happy to share the things I’ve learned and to pass that information on.  It’s about getting others to see the different spheres that occurred within the realm of slavery, whether urban or rural. To be able to give you what unfortunately rare glimpse in into that life brings me joy. Sue me.

 

The only sad thing about the program is how many people afterwards wanted to know if we were a travelling group of interpreters. It’s sad because there aren’t enough African American interpreters out there. Many are older, so it was a special treat to work with Mia who interprets down in Georgia, and Emmanuel who are a few years older than me. It was also great to work with Julie, our lone white woman, who works at the Frontier Culture Museum and is an amazing talent. If there can be 100 more Mias, Nicoles and Emmanuels, the way people learn about slavery can definitely change. It shouldn’t be a celebration that 10 of us can get together. It should be a regular occurrence. But that’s another rant for another time. You didn’t make it down to City Point? No problem. Check out the pictures and my friend Annemarie Beebe, the Executive Director of Historic Rock Hill snagged my presentation. Enjoy!

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Coming soon…

Posted By on April 30, 2012

Petersburg City Point Unit...this happened. Post coming soon!

New Cross-Post from Pop South

Posted By on April 17, 2012

Please check out this latest post at Pop South. This is a discussion a few of us have been having after seeing the Glory Food ads and we can’t help but wonder who are these commercials targeted to and why?

Black Domestic in a Can–A South Carolina Ad Agency “Helps” Glory Foods

Musings and updates

Posted By on April 17, 2012

Ahh, so this week is the joint meeting with NCPH and OAH that I was supposed to attend. Due to financial constraints, I was not able to make it and I’m completely bummed out about that. I was looking forward to the session on Sunday that is chaired by Robert Weyeneth of the University of South Carolina. It’s titled “Challenges and Opportunities for Interpreting Slavery for Public Audiences” and quite honestly, I wish I could have joined that group of presenters because this is what I do and I’m on a conference kick right now. But the presenters and topics are as follows:

Interpreting Urban Slavery in Columbia, South Carolina
John Sherrer, Historic Columbia Foundation
What Do You Mean the Congregation Owned Slaves?
John Larson, Old Salem Museums and Gardens
Exhibiting Culture: The Sweetgrass Exhibit at the Avery Research Center
Georgette Mayo, Avery Research Center for African American History
Slavery and the University
C H A I R : Robert Weyeneth

Other sessions about slavery that I was looking forward to checking out (there are more but these were interesting to me):
Thursday
Emancipate Yourself: Slaves and their Struggle for Freedom
The Business of Slavery: Education and Professionalism in Slave Societies

Friday
New Perspectives on the Nineteenth Century Slave Trade

and also this working group
What It’s Worth: Valuing and Pricing the Work of Historical Consultants

Hopefully someone in attendance will see this post and happen to stroll upon these sessions and share?? Perhaps?? Hmm?? If not, I’ll be more than happy to follow along via Twitter and I’m sure History@Work will have some posts about this as well as the conference blog itself! Just because I can’t be there in person doesn’t mean I can’t be there in spirit!

Also, next weekend if you are in the Petersburg/Richmond, VA area, please come out to Petersburg National Battlefield, City Point for an exciting Living History event:
April 28 & 29: “Seeking New Shelters: The 1862 Evacuation of City Point”. General Grant’s Headquarters Unit. Living history event. Sat. 9-5 pm, Sun. 9-2 pm

This event is really special because there will be a large group of African American interpreters sharing the stories of those who were enslaved at the site and you’ll get to hear those stories in first person. Anybody who does African American interpretation of any sort will understand how exciting it is to have so many together at one time. We get excited when we find one other person like us…this will be a feast for our historical senses!! Come on out and enjoy yourself. Make the drive up if you’d like, Richmond is a city full of interesting history anyway…let us be your main attraction on a historical weekend adventure!!

Quick Update

Posted By on April 3, 2012

I haven’t fallen off the face of the earth, just working on some things for my clients and getting that out the door! This month, I will be in Petersburg, VA at a program entitled, “Seeking New Shelters: The 1862 Evacuation of City Point”. It’s April 28-29th and I am very excited to be attending.

While I hoped to make it to Miluawkee for the NCPH’s annual meeting, this year in collaboration with OAH, I won’t be able to go….and I am completely devestated. AND I am still working with the Cooking Gene. We have about 30 days left to get 5500 or so to make our goal. Please, Please help us get there!
The Cooking Gene Project

New Links Worth Checking Out!

Posted By on March 19, 2012

Hey everybody!

I have added two new links to the blogroll on your right. One is for NCPH’s History@Work website which is “a digital publication project of the National Council on Public History. The blog was created in March 2012 to expand on our long-running listserv, H-Public, to serve as an online “commons” where people from a variety of areas of the public history field could share ideas and news, and to create a bridge to future digital and other publication efforts. Like the field itself, the blog is designed to blend scholarly, professional, and civic discourse arising from the practice of presenting history in public.” I think this website is a brilliant idea and cannot wait to spend more time perusing it as a public history professional!

The second one is Slavery at South Carolina College from the Public History Program at  The University of South Carolina and it talks about something a lot of folks are really ready to admit…that colleges and universities were also homes to slavery and slave labor. Take the time out to look at this site and also leave comments for them. Hopefully more schools with this past, will join USC and The College of William and Mary in talking about their past.

Fun “Dreaming of Dixie”

Posted By on March 16, 2012

When my mentor, Dr. Karen Cox asked me to introduce her at the Levine Museum, I had no problem agreeing to it. For everything that she has done for me, it was the very least I could do. I honestly could not think of something to write down. How do you write an introduction for someone who has helped you develop as a student and a professional? So I winged it. Apparently it was good. I am glad. But what I did not expect was for the Chancellor of UNC Charlotte to be in attendance, the Dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences and a host of others. That made things a tad shakey mc shakey nerves. But I made it through and really enjoyed the talk as well as the discussion that took place, got my mind racing and thinking about if times have changed.

Karen L. Cox’s book, Dreaming of Dixie: How the South Was Created in American Popular Culture takes a look at the perception of the South following the end of the Civil War/into the Reconstruction Era. What I got out of this is that the Lost Cause may have been lost in practice, but the theory survived well into the Civil Rights Era. Most scholars, academics and those interesed in history will say, “duh,” but I think the one thing that has been missed, is that there is a sense of agency suggesting that those who are being mocked with these Southern stereotypes eventually took matters into their own hands to make a few dollars as this crazy idea of the South was being perpetuated and promoted.

Make no mistake about it, the bigotry, racism and just all in all ignorance that these stereotypes breed are horrible. Nothing was more telling than when a Dr. Cox presented a slide during the lecture that showed in color the advertisements used for “Coon Songs”. The image of a black face with big red lips and wide eyes made many in the room gasp loudly. Part of me wanted to say, “really? Ya’ll didn’t know those images were real?” but then I realized that we live in a day and age where folks don’t think racism really exists so the gasp wasn’t all that shocking anymore. But what I thought was interesting while reading the book was that as visitors were coming down South to “step back in time”, Southerners were playing along as well, understanding that they provided some sort of alternate reality and someone was willing to pay for it so why not? Now I expected this from the Southern Belles with their hoop skirts and massive plantation homes, but what made me chuckle was and cringe at the same time was the fact that there were African Americans who capitalized as best they could on the ignorant visitors by playing along. The old woman who could tell you about the slavery days, but would only do so at the prompting of money…the white tourists not only bought into instances like that, they ate it up!! The very group these tourists deemed unintelligent and childlike were the same ones who decided, if you’re going to pay for it, I might as well get paid. It’s like…they took advantage of the situation, but at what cost? Likewise with the “Coon Songs”, Dr. Cox points out that some of then were written and performed by African Americans, like Paul Laurence Dunbar, who knew these songs were horrible, and did nothing to move the society forward, but in order to get ahead, hard choices had to be made.  And then it made me think about how that relates to society today, and the perception that the South still holds on to…an ignorant and backwards region …to make a buck. Look at the reality shows, look at how people still talk about those “old timey days” and some even reflect fondly about how life “used to be”. Look at the people who are participating on shows like “Swamp People”, you know there is a group of people who think that’s how everybody in Louisiana does exactly what they do, so why not make a dollar, or a couple thousand?

What I really think got a lot of the room thinking though was the discussion of one Aunt Jemima. While the story of how Ms. Jemima was a product of an advertising agency based on the “Mammy” stereotype was shared with the group, there was an older gentlemen who stated that Ms. Jemima was a real person. To give this man credit, I think he saw Aunt Jemima as a composite of many black women he knew in his lifetime. I give him that credit because he did list a few of his family friends’ maids that reminded him of the pancake icon. As the mood in the room shifted from a variety of feelings mainly, shock, discomfort and disbelief, I realized that there are many who are still out there “Dreaming of Dixie” and wondering when those good ol’ days of darkies picking cotton, cooking meals and knowing their station in life while Southern Belles entertain gentlemen callers on the porch amidst a mint julep or two, will return. For those who don’t believe that the legacy of slavery still exists or that we should still get over it and not discuss it, think about this. Slavery was not just about whites owning black people and looking at them as less than human. It was not just a business model of capitalism and inhumanity, it was something that created a mindset, and ideals regarding how people should be viewed. That mindset and those ideals are what we are still fighting today. Not seeking out the truth and having honest conversations about slavery and what it’s done is how these stereotypes about the Old South, and its people are still floating around in today’s pop culture. Minstrel shows may not exist in the form from the early 1900s, but they’re still out there. I think those of us who are still awake, should really help out those who are still “dreaming of Dixie”.

image courtesy of UNC Press

So What’s Next?

Posted By on March 6, 2012

The funny thing about doing work and finishing one gig is wondering when the next phone call or email will come. Well, that email came Friday afternoon as I traveled through Charlotte Douglass Airport when I was invited to speak on a panel at Stetson University on the 20th. The topic is interpretations of the Confederate Flag…I really can’t wait to see how this one is going to be. I have also been contacted by the amazing Terry Brock via twitter. Terry is the one who is really making slavery at St. Mary’s City happen. He has done the archaeological work and really knows what’s there in terms of material culture and artifacts. It is going to be amazing working with him to tell this story, his vision is amazing!!!

But before I do that, the week before on the 13th, I have the honor of introducing Dr. Karen Cox at the Levine Museum of the New South in Charlotte, NC for her lecture on her book, Dreaming of Dixie: How the South Was Created in American Popular Culture. I am particularly pleased with doing this as Dr. Cox served as my thesis advisor and has been a mentor to me before and after graduation. She encouraged me to pursue a graduate degree in History and that was some sound advice.

I am participating in a living history event at Petersburg National Battlefield…in fact it is the City Point Living History program on April 28-29th and I am very excited about that. I get to work with Miss Kitty again and I am also going to meet some other interpreters who portray enslaved African Americans and that to me is going to be an amazing experience. I just hope it doesn’t rain!! After that is the National Council on Public History’s Annual Meeting and I am still part of the Cooking Gene, which your donations are always ALWAYS welcome to…but I still have openings on my calendar…

So if you are a site that wants me to come talk, or you know of a site that is thinking about interpreting slavery or doing it and wants some help, have them contact me at Nicole. Moore15@gmail.com

Fun with Public Lectures

Posted By on March 6, 2012

Last Thursday (March 1) I gave my first public lecture at Historic St. Mary’s City. After such a large crowd at the panel discussion at St. Mary’s College, I thought that the group would migrate over on Thursday, but alas it was not meant to be. However, there were about 20 people there who came out to listen, and I think a great time was had by most. I talked about my experiences interpreting slave life at living history sites and really talked about what politics come in to play when working with such an electrifying topic. Nothing was really left out as I discussed how we held trainings to get the other interpreters comfortable with talking about slavery at Brattonsville in depth, the double standards that can crop up when you have one African American interpreter who has to know all the history while others only learn the “white” history, what it’s like under the “token” label and why certain topics are taboos.

For me, this lecture served as an enlightening period of what is going on at historic sites, and how we can make changes so that there isn’t a lopsided portrayal of history particularly at sites that incorporate third person interpretation. I could see the museum professionals in the room really have those “aha” moments when we talked about how to  share the wealth of information. While writing out the presentation it occurred to me that there were quite a few negative experiences I had while doing interpretation. The only thing is, I didn’t really focus on the negative while I was working because I truly enjoyed talking to the public about slavery. For every situation that could have made for a miserable experience, I made sure that I turned it into a positive. It took a long reflective period to see that there was a battle just about every day to make sure the story of slavery was interpreted correctly and consistently, but we made it happen.

Even in the negative, I don’t think there is such a thing as a bad experience if you can turn it around and learn from it. Even with the human resource issues of inappropriate plantation humor (if there’s even such a thing as appropriate plantation humor), instead of making a large deal out of something people would say without thinking, I always looked at those situations as something we could ALL learn from.

It felt great to get the feedback after the fact saying how much those who were there really enjoyed the talk although it ended up being longer than I thought it would be. The one thing I strive for is a connection with my audience. I don’t want slavery to be a topic that they are scared to ask questions about or to just really show that they have an interest in. It was also great to see so many people excited to hear that St. Mary’s City was taking the steps to talk about slavery on the site. There is a true interest in the whole story and for so long we have gotten the “Gone with the Wind” version instead of the truth. That’s not just saying that the vision of slave life was washed over, but also the life of plantation owners. Not every woman lived their life like Scarlett and what I’m seeing is more visitors taking those rose colored lenses off and wanting to see how it really was for all people. We’re taking steps in the right direction and I am so excited to be a part of it.

 

A reader, Catherine who commented on the last post, wondered if St. Mary’s City had any pictures or a website of the slave cabin that they are currently studying. Well, like everything else in the museum world, St. Mary’s is waiting for funding to come through to complete everything involved with getting that cabin online and ready for visitors to see it. However, while I was there, I did manage to get some pictures of the exterior of the cabin. The building was locked so I was not able to see the inside, but I’m sure that day will come soon enough. For now, please enjoy the pictures, and thanks Catherine for your inquiry.

Introducing Slavery at Historic St. Mary’s City

Posted By on March 1, 2012

I think there are some folks who chuckle when I tell them I am a consultant, as if that’s not possible. But I am. A large part of what I do and what I want to continue doing is getting historic sites and museums comfortable in telling the story of slavery as it pertains to their history. Part of my travels this week involve me giving a public lecture on my experiences in the field and also having an open discussion with the staff at Historic St. Mary’s City which will be introducing slavery to its interpretation in the coming months. St. Mary’s is Maryland’s first capital and the site focuses on life in the 17th century. However, life did not end in the 17th century and then pick up to today. The inn that I am staying it is an 1840s home, the Brome Howard. Along with this 1840s house comes an 1840s slave cabin. For me, an unfortunate aspect is that the house and cabin have been moved from their original sites and have been moved to a location nearby. However, I do understand that this 1840s home does clash with the 17th century narrative. But wonders of wonders, that does not mean that the site has abandoned the home. In fact, the site is now using the Brome Howard as a wonderful bed and breakfast that I have been calling home all week. Quaint in its existence, while still undergoing some improvements, I have to say that this place has been a quiet refuge for me to return to every night. But besides the absolute peace and quiet I have gotten at the house, the slave cabin here is a real treat.

It’s a duplex, and the site is working on archaeology that will help tell the story of this place. With all of this work, the site is now faced with telling the story of slavery although it falls outside of the realm of the 17th century. For some longtime supporters, it’s not a surprise that there is a bit of hesitance. I have heard quite a few times that slavery wasn’t a problem here because it did not exist. But there is this cabin which says….I was here…you have to talk about me!!! The staff has accepted the challenge and Executive Director Regina Faden asked me to come in as a consultant and start a dialogue with the staff and talk about what it’s like to have slavery interpreted at your site and answer questions that they had in regards to perception, difficult audiences, possible issues stemming from school group visits, or any large group visits for that matter, and just how to handle this new aspect of their history.

What a great conversation we had this afternoon. What I saw was a group of white men and women looking for ways to talk about  topic that some will say they have no right speaking on. I saw an openness to make some adjustments to interpretation even before the slave cabin comes online. I saw a great group of interpreters and educators looking to change their narrative to go beyond the 17th century. While they are still in the beginning stages, I cannot wait to see how Historic St. Mary’s City introduces this subject with an amazing artifact like the cabin and introduce a new chapter in the history of this amazing site. I’ll continue to work with them on this project and be available to add perspective and answer questions that come out and be as much of a resource as I possibly can for them. The one thing that I did not hear from the staff was that because they were white, they could not talk about slavery. It was already a non issue and I really loved that. There is no thought of putting everything on hold until an African American interpreter is brought on board, there is no, “we just can’t because”…the attitude is, how do we move to the next level and what do we have to do to get there? Of course it’s ideal to have more diversity on staff, but to acknowledge that they cannot use that as a crutch to not move forward is motivating for me. I think the public will be pleased with the outcome simply because I see the dedication to tell the story of slavery. I am interested to see what this story holds and can’t wait for the next chapter.